Though I’ll get TPB’s Ricky to quote you a best case ontario of sixty sixty it works. I just searched my ebay history but i haven’t found it yet. What’s the maximum temperature? Induction Levitation. Of course, the thicker you go, the more expensive. I actually tried winding a spiral coil with nichrome wire for months. Just make sure your design doesn’t let the magnet get too hot to the point where it crosses its “currie point” and destroys the magnetic qualities. Yup, i’m definitely considering it. The elements you are using potentially have a number of problems. :-P. Dude what is your problem? (was planing to build more hotplates) As a result of this you realize they you forgot to stop at the gas station on your way home from a long trip. One safe way to power your smoker is to use a hot plate, which provides a steady source of low heat that is needed to smoke food. Stretch the copper wire using the nails like … now in this step we will fold and glue all the tabs to complete the casing. bunsen burners and glass stirring rods. We used to use cheap hot plates with bimetal thermostates, but found that they weren’t nearly as temperature stable as the ones we could make. You will need to make a plate that to worm the cap. So, what about the heating element from an electric jug / kettle? You’ve got a lot of work to catch up, but I believe in you. A plate like this will radiate heat and move a lot of it over to the right side away from the firebox. You position them off to the side of your reaction vessel and they are independent of each other so you can move them around. Oh, say, about the height of a man and in the shape of a large cone. Could you tell me the exact items used? Hair dryers solve this problem by using thinner nichrome but winding it into a small diameter coil and then winding the resulting coil onto a larger diameter coils. Then the element can be further from the center to allow the magnetic stirrer to be closer because the copper or aluminium (aluminum) plate would distribute the heat evenly. Right now, [NurdRage] will probably end up spending $3,000 for a group buy of these heating elements. The heater is installed simply by removing the adhesive backing and applying the Pelonis Ultra-Thin Flexible Heater to the desired substrate. But even if i did, me changing those settings wouldn’t affect the output of the video. Seems like if he bought a decent hotplate to begin with (for example, the IKA C-MAG hotplates seem to run forever) he would not have an issue. you might want to use a pwm driver on a higher current source such as the car battery to run this. Then the issue becomes – how to increase the winding density at the outer edge so that the heat is not concentrated in the middle. It gets very hot, so of course you will need some sort of temperature controller. Did you make this project? You could use multiple Kapton heaters, which you can stick onto an aluminium plate (for heat dispersion). This works pretty good for heating elements in sensors. As long as your rock has enough thermal mass, you could do some heating on it for quite some time. https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Hot-Sell-Mica-Heating-Element_60042331915.html?s=p. That water boils at is 212°F and this Hotplate can heat up to above 250°F. now we will build the circuit. tl;dr: It’s on the bottom because it’s cheap, safe, and cheap. He is the troll you should all aspire to be. What if there were a way to heat your home, give you all the hot water you need for baths, showers, laundry, heating your pool, spa, and anything else you wanted to keep warm with a truly efficient and renewable resource? Alternatively the pre-built heating modules would be best and also as others have mentioned – PID controllers are plenty and cheap on ebay. on the spot where the potentiometer connects to the switch, solder the 10k risistor to it so the leds can light up when the switch is turned on, and solder the other end of the LED wire to ground. f = 1 / ( 2π * √[L * C] ). Plate with cartridge heaters work great. Take the LEDs and solder them together through a wire, then on the one positive LED pin that dosent have a wire add the 10k ohm risistor. It should be doable but it is something to watch. They can made small volume heaters of various kind but I do not know if they can export. This was only to test a given power heater, so I didn’t run it for too long, but for the price, it could definitely be worth trying – McMaster has a 12″x120″ roll for $36, which guessing at a 6″ target diameter (even though the video looks like it’s closer to 4″) yields around 40 heaters, or a 8″x12″ sheet for $6 if you just want to test one or two. Not sure if you can keep it separate from the stirring apparatus, but maybe a cheap way A large reel of nichrome wire is not very expensive, so to replace it all you should need to do is identify the length requires, wind it on a suitable former and crimp or baize it in place of the failed wire. I might have the answer. It worked for a while, but the ceramic paint wasn’t insulating enough and it shorted rather spectacularly. If I’m understanding [Errana’s] description, the only moving part would be the magnetic stir bar, which resides in the chemical being stirred. :), By not contributing any ideas for a hotplate, you may in fact be helping to save the world from global warming. By the way, could attempt repair in meantime with “defogger repair” paint or 2 part gloop. 1 year ago Please be kind and respectful to help make the comments section excellent. You can get a used IKA C-MAG in pretty good condition used for $200 (they are about $600 new). I hear tell sheet nickel is able to be cut on a laser cutter, so possibly nichrome is too??? Since oxidation seems to be the ultimate enemy, we need to stop it. Just thinking, government surplus auctions are a good place for older, top brand, built like a tank stuff. I’m thinking a spider coil and fiberglass yarn to separate the wire turns. large current equals high temp. Its a good idea though. I’m just too much a klutz when it comes to engineering. I might have the answer. Reply (apologies for hijacking this comment, for some reason there was no reply button to your other comment). Partcularly a heatproof glass. Some organic solvents are quite flammable. in the first image I have put measurements on one of every line and the lengths of the others are determined by tick marks shone. The “Little Bertha” could be run hot enough to melt aluminum; it should be overkill, in a good way, for hotplate duty. As DKE said – laser cut steel shim stock. I’d try a few coats of Heat resistant paint over the element. They run maybe 200 hours a year, sometimes for days at a time, but I don’t often run them above 150C, and rarely above 250C, so I can’t say how they’d handle that sort of hard running. actually i have tried it which is why i made the comment. Or maybe a simple iron-skillet may be hot enough for your needs (usually <300'C). The first is the track design. However , the bottom of the mug is very thin and allows heat to travel through it easily. Sure into place with another washer and hex bolt, tightening it with breaking the pot. Halfway through your coffee gets cold and gross tasting. You can tell them apart by putting a magnet on them. that rules out large heated rocks, and probably a lot of things involving thick blocks of metal or rapidly changing magnetic fields. anders625 here with another DIY project that is as much fun to build as it is useful. I don’t know which ones are which by the number. Depends on the planed reactions. Unfortunately that takes too long to set up. It got so hot that it burnt the glasswool I used as insulation. Just an idea I’ve wanted to run through a thermal simulator someday. Maybe cornings really are better and i just had bad luck. That should be able to handle temperatures even higher than 350C. And by the way: Railways are not steam powered any more. Stirring hot, toxic stuff at high rates with a stir bar that wants to fly off to the side and fling the beaker off the plate sounds.. exciting. So if you wind a spiral then you only have one length and no reversals, this is the worst case for dealing with expansion and it will try to expand it’s diameter unevenly. Share it with us! So your heating element must be thick or short to achieve a higher power output at a specific voltage. Place the bricks over the bricks. Although this apparatus will certainly draw over 1kw… going to red-heat is not a good idea for a few reasons. The second suspected problem is the metal used for the heating element. Yep, all good points, RÖB. There’s not much in life that is more scary to me than high temperature oil. Problem is it would kill the magnetic stir bar. now you can cut out the metal using the tin snips. I second this. When making a printed heater like the ones you have – the heating material expands and the magnitude of the expansion is dependent on the length of the track so it has to reverse direction very frequently or it will develop metal fatigue points just as you have experienced with the ones you have. I voted for you in the other contests, I hope you win them too! The ultra-thin design also allows a pressure plate to cover the heater entirely without modifying the plate or … borosilicate glass doesnt conduct the same, true, but this is a small factor.This hotplate can work, but not off a 9v battery, the peltier, if it is something like a tec1-2706, can operate at 100W, and should take 3-4A for heating up water. Stirrer should be possible also, but maybe machining a ‘hole’ (not all the way through) in the center so the magnets can get closer. The same could be done with an electric frying pan. The amount of nickel-chromium alloy you require will depend on the heat voltage that you need to produce in your appliance. Right, I was having a different kind of brain fart, thought it displaced copper in board etching by the metals co-opting each other, but no, when it goes into solution in water you get a HCl, hydrochloric ion out, so it’s basically acid doing the job. The Internet’s favorite artificial baritone chemist has a problem. After all If at first you don't succeed try, try again. What are you going to do, waste precious study time to make more while dumping out the old stuff. You would need two sets of coils. It’s blatant price gouging worse than apple but i have no idea what can be done about it. The metal can be purchased at your local hardware store. and it suddenly gets way more useful, because heat pumps have a hot and a cold side, like the different parts of a lot of your set ups often need. If you have any questions or comments then be sure to leave them below, I'm very good at responding and if I don't right away then just be patient and I will respond to you soon. Who says the stirring action has to come from beneath the vessel you’re heating? on Introduction, Reply I stopped buying music when the CD was introduced, how much money have they lost? A third potential disadvantage to heat plates is the upfront cost. But you need the water and thermal isolation from the metal or the thermal hysteresis from the poor temperature regulation would break the glass or cause unwanted and dangerous side effects. God knows i’m an asshole. 6 years ago GOAT material. In this step we will glue on the cooler using the high temperature resilient glue. You can use IRF540 as the mosfets which are rated at good 110V, 33amps. How they dissipate heat into air depends on the surface finish. Coffee mugs (like the one that I used to test it) are excellent insulators and is why they are used as containers for hot liquids to prevent the user from being burned. or open your Realtek HD audio manager if you have it, go to ‘sound effects’ and change ‘karaoke’ to +2, +3 or +4 and guess what nurdrage’s real voice sounds like. Gut feeling is you want to drench it in water while you’re trying to holesaw it, and it’s still gonna be messy. Here is the circuit on a breadboard to give you an idea of what it's supposed to looks like if you do decide to test it. It wasn’t safe, but I was just testing out a hunch. when it breaks internally, it reconnects forming a bad connection which can and did burn my wires, or rather melt over 10 minutes of turning on and off with each disturbance. Toasters solve this problem by having a lot of thick nichrome and having it well spaced out. second is IKA, and third i think is heidolph (sorry if i’m spelling that wrong). Make it a reverse cycle heat pump (can they work over a large enough range?) Which means hot plates are bloody fucking expensive. I place an oven tray on a stove top element and half fill it with water and I place some spacers in the tray and a Pyrex glass dish on the thermal isolating spacers so that the poorly regulated higher temperatures from the heater are limited to 100 degrees Celsius by the water. Stainless steel foil. That wouldn’t be viable due to the time scales involved. Also, I’m curious if relatively even heating could be provided by an assembly of two thin parallel plates separated by a small air gap with a plurality of thermal bridges between, arranged in such a way as to conduct the heat from the gradient created by cartridge heaters peripherally arranged on the lower plate into the upper plate in a more uniform gradient. Something like David Gingery’s “Little Bertha”, rearranged into a hotplate geometry. When the magnetic poles flip, you will get your stirring. He is the Haut-Brion to the box of Franzia that’s usually found here. If you buy a hotplate from the usual lab equipment supplier, you’ll get a few pieces of mica and a thin trace of metal foil. I have 7 smaller (200W and 550W) Corning plates, all from the early 1990s, all running fine. Just a thought…, Yea, thats the way to go. The disadvantage of this would be that it takes slightly longer to reach a stable temperature and it would be less suitable for a changing temperature or temperature profile. What glue for heat resistance, When I used your link for the P thing, a lot of items came up. Right now I do not recall how much I paid for it but it was not expensive considering that I ordered 4 pieces custom made for me. Microwave-Safe Plates. Here you can find a few pictures https://tklijn.wordpress.com/2016/04/06/500w-hotplate/, found something that looks about the same as the one’s I have: maintaining tempurature however it most certainly could do off a couple watt power supply, but realistically, given a 9v battery has less energy than your typical AA, this wont even warm water up.Second, your peltier wires should NEVER be allowed to bend. You can make a ~1000W heat element for less than 10$. It would be impossible no doubt without defying the laws of space-time. To help yourself, first attach a long plant twist tie to the end of the nichrome wire, and then pull the twist tie across the sleeve. They won't get really hot this way, but at least they won't make … like in this item : http://hackaday.com/2015/06/16/mini-arc-furnace-melts-its-way-into-our-hearts/. You could just modify the existing hardware. Hold a flame to the hot side and it will produce about 6v of electricity, and hold an ice cube to the cold side and you guessed it, it will also produce electricity. When it drops further to 70 degrees I add the copper laminate. There are ferric and non-ferric grades of stainless steel. Electric plate warmers set on low, using the same theory as used in a heating pad, keeps clay plates warm. Then you don’t need the dangerous mains voltage at all. Using the same set of coils to make an induction heater and a solid-state stirrer would be quite a nice touch. so in general, the plate will survive 10W, i boiled water on mine at 100W, but that required careful controlling as these plates shouldnt ever go beyond 125 degrees, practically speaking 100 degrees is the limit for indefinite use. Your smoker might have tracks to install the plates, but most models don’t have these. However, that upfront cost is made up for in electricity use, as within a few weeks of using it, most heat plates will have paid for themselves in electricity savings versus a 250 watt heat bulb. The fiberglass was fine though. Step 1: Buy Note 7 This also allows the heater to be bigger and more robust. wow, it looks even better then I could have ever imagined. You could even pass current through the straight wire first to oxidise, then coil, but I haven’t tested to see if this works well. Instructions on how to properly reinstall plates for a Tranter Plate and Frame Heat Exchanger. I’ve actually done this as a prototype (for a 3D printer heated bed, actually…) – a 40W Epilog laser can cut 0.001″ (“one thou”) steel in a single, very slow pass. The first image is the lid and the second image is the body (in case you haven't figured that out all ready). One in the middle (with a diameter of the stir bars length) and a slow rotating field. funny thing a note 7 is as cheap as a hot plate. 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